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Comcast & free McAfee
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Rick Merrill
2005-08-23 15:17:21 UTC
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Comcast customers can get free McAfee antivirus and firewall. I
currently use Norton. Should I switch???
B.J. Herbison
2005-08-24 01:29:20 UTC
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I had bad experiences with McAfee and it's poor customer service
so I switched to Norton.

The straw that broke the camel's back: I received e-mail with a
virus (it wasn't that hard to tell -- typical virus e-mail text
with an executable attachment). McAfee had an e-mail address to
mail suspect mail, and it came back identified as a specific virus.
The "large company" version of McAfee software identified it as a
virus, but even after updating the home version of McAfee the
software wouldn't detect it. When I call McAfee to ask when my
.dat file would be updated to detect it, several customer "service"
reps claimed that the attachment didn't contain a virus since the
software I had didn't see a virus.

That was the worse case (and hopefully those people have been fired),
but I had regular problems with the scanning and bad interactions
with other programs.

But, in the computer field things change. Next year McAfee might find
every virus and work with all programs and Norton might crash my PC.

B.J.
Post by Rick Merrill
Comcast customers can get free McAfee antivirus and firewall. I
currently use Norton. Should I switch???
--
B.J. Herbison / ***@herbison.com / http://www.herbison.com/herbison/bj.html
The Next Asylum / 203 Long Hill Road / Bolton, MA 01740-1421 / +1 978
634-1061
Dr Feelgood
2005-08-24 02:12:30 UTC
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Post by B.J. Herbison
I had bad experiences with McAfee and it's poor customer service
so I switched to Norton.
The straw that broke the camel's back: I received e-mail with a
virus (it wasn't that hard to tell -- typical virus e-mail text
with an executable attachment). McAfee had an e-mail address to
mail suspect mail, and it came back identified as a specific virus.
The "large company" version of McAfee software identified it as a
virus, but even after updating the home version of McAfee the
software wouldn't detect it. When I call McAfee to ask when my
.dat file would be updated to detect it, several customer "service"
reps claimed that the attachment didn't contain a virus since the
software I had didn't see a virus.
That was the worse case (and hopefully those people have been fired),
but I had regular problems with the scanning and bad interactions
with other programs.
But, in the computer field things change. Next year McAfee might find
every virus and work with all programs and Norton might crash my PC.
B.J.
I have spent many hours using my McAfee emergency disk to remove virus from
friends computers that Norton couldn't detect or clean. When my son recently
came to live with me I spent several hours making sure I had cleaned all the
virus and Trojans from his computer that had been running Norton. I did get
information on removing a couple of the Trojans that could not be cleaned
automatically at the McAfee website.

Pardon me if I don't believe your story. Do you work for Norton? You see I
know Michael McAfee who developed the McAfee AV software and who offered a
standard 10 k reward for years to anyone who could get a virus unto his
system. Michael has left the company now but I have found that McAfee still
stands by their product and Norton does not. When one of my friends who had
Norton got a virus, that I cleaned for them using McAfee's rescue disk, they
were told by Norton phone support the only possible way to get rid of the
virus was to format their hard drive. It was a good thing that they decided
to call me before going that far. That computer was cleaned of that virus
within 10 minutes of my arrival over 2 years ago and it is still running
today with McAfee AV software installed. I'm sure that computer will remain
virus free until it is retired. hopefully soon as I'm getting tired of
replacing old parts and upgrading memory, video cards and such for a
sandwich and a soda.

As far as I know the free McAfee deal Comcast offers is a one time thing. I
have paid for McAfee AV since Michael sold out and except for my one year
free Comcast customer benefit. I do get a legacy discount as I subscribed
for the pay service the day the new people took over and Michael McAfee left
the company.

The Norton people know me very well also and I can get their AV product free
of charge but I remain a paying McAfee customer. That is another story
however.
B.J. Herbison
2005-08-25 09:42:23 UTC
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Post by Dr Feelgood
Do you work for Norton?
No. B.J.
--
B.J. Herbison / ***@herbison.com / http://www.herbison.com/herbison/bj.html
The Next Asylum / 203 Long Hill Road / Bolton, MA 01740-1421 / +1 978
634-1061
Dr Feelgood
2005-08-26 00:00:13 UTC
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I contacted McAfee on line via support chat and asked them about the "free"
Comcast subscription As My McAfee account was due for renewal. I was advised
to uninstall my current paid subscription ( uninstall) and reinstall from
the Comcast web site to get the Comcast paid subscription. I uninstalled my
current versions of McAfee virus-scan and security center. I them went to
the Comcast home page and clicked my way to McAfee under the security tab.
After A reinstall from their I checked and it is the exact same version I
was paying for.

Anyone still using the paid version can simply cancel their current
subscription at the McAfee web site to avoid being charged for renewal and
go to the Comcast McAfee install link as there is an uninstall available in
the Comcast Install package. This saves me over 30 dollars a year.

Thank you Comcast.

(Comcast also provides other McAfee services if anyone wants them also.)
Post by Dr Feelgood
Post by B.J. Herbison
I had bad experiences with McAfee and it's poor customer service
so I switched to Norton.
The straw that broke the camel's back: I received e-mail with a
virus (it wasn't that hard to tell -- typical virus e-mail text
with an executable attachment). McAfee had an e-mail address to
mail suspect mail, and it came back identified as a specific virus.
The "large company" version of McAfee software identified it as a
virus, but even after updating the home version of McAfee the
software wouldn't detect it. When I call McAfee to ask when my
.dat file would be updated to detect it, several customer "service"
reps claimed that the attachment didn't contain a virus since the
software I had didn't see a virus.
That was the worse case (and hopefully those people have been fired),
but I had regular problems with the scanning and bad interactions
with other programs.
But, in the computer field things change. Next year McAfee might find
every virus and work with all programs and Norton might crash my PC.
B.J.
I have spent many hours using my McAfee emergency disk to remove virus
from friends computers that Norton couldn't detect or clean. When my son
recently came to live with me I spent several hours making sure I had
cleaned all the virus and Trojans from his computer that had been running
Norton. I did get information on removing a couple of the Trojans that
could not be cleaned automatically at the McAfee website.
Pardon me if I don't believe your story. Do you work for Norton? You see I
know Michael McAfee who developed the McAfee AV software and who offered a
standard 10 k reward for years to anyone who could get a virus unto his
system. Michael has left the company now but I have found that McAfee
still stands by their product and Norton does not. When one of my friends
who had Norton got a virus, that I cleaned for them using McAfee's rescue
disk, they were told by Norton phone support the only possible way to get
rid of the virus was to format their hard drive. It was a good thing that
they decided to call me before going that far. That computer was cleaned
of that virus within 10 minutes of my arrival over 2 years ago and it is
still running today with McAfee AV software installed. I'm sure that
computer will remain virus free until it is retired. hopefully soon as I'm
getting tired of replacing old parts and upgrading memory, video cards and
such for a sandwich and a soda.
As far as I know the free McAfee deal Comcast offers is a one time thing.
I have paid for McAfee AV since Michael sold out and except for my one
year free Comcast customer benefit. I do get a legacy discount as I
subscribed for the pay service the day the new people took over and
Michael McAfee left the company.
The Norton people know me very well also and I can get their AV product
free of charge but I remain a paying McAfee customer. That is another
story however.
Vanguard
2005-08-24 02:07:08 UTC
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Post by Rick Merrill
Comcast customers can get free McAfee antivirus and firewall. I
currently use Norton. Should I switch???
I saw the free deal at Comcast for McAfee. Their firewall isn't very
configurable (compared to, say, Sygate Personal Firewall - which is free
but get it now before Symantec screws it over after buying Sygate).
Their anti-virus will impact performance for file I/O. I found CA's
EzAntivirus to least impact performance of my system (and a couple
others where I also trialed Symantec and McAfee). While many users
might not notice the impact, it would interfere with, say, games causing
sporadic jerkiness because of the repetitive file I/O. Add the I/O Read
Bytes and I/O Write Bytes columns to the Process tab of Task Manager.
After a day of letting my system run idle, VS had read through 18GB of
file data and, no, it wasn't running a scan. The AV comparatives show
McAfee has high coverage but I couldn't take the impact anymore. Even
Symantec didn't impact my system as much (and I don't consider it a slim
solution, either). I didn't find any value for the McAfee Parental
Controls since I'm the only user of my computer: I don't need to censor
myself as to where I can navigate. I had Sygate firewall and CA
EzAntiVirus, took them off, tried the McAfee bundle, and after a week
went back to Sygate and EzAntivirus. Sygate firewall is free (the
personal version) and you can get a 1-year full-version copy of
EzAntivirus (http://www.my-etrust.com/microsoft), so I can push off for
another year as to what I want to use then.

If my choice were Norton or McAfee, I would go Norton - but don't
install or disable the Parental Control feature since it sucks up lots
of memory. Also disable other nonessential or duplicative functions,
like e-mail scanning. Don't bother with Norton's AntiSpam product. Get
SpamPal instead. I've also never needed the Privacy Control function: I
don't need a program to intervene to warn me that I just entered my
credit card number in a form.
--
____________________________________________________________
For e-mail, remove "NIX" and add "#LAH" passcode to Subject.
____________________________________________________________
Bernie
2005-08-25 22:30:30 UTC
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Post by Rick Merrill
Comcast customers can get free McAfee antivirus and firewall. I
currently use Norton. Should I switch???
I inherited a system with McAfee AV a few years ago at a place that I
volunteer. I found the user interfaces and messages in Norton AV much
easier to understand and to work with than McAfee. I don't know if
McAfee AV has improved the user interface because we now have Norton AV
or Norton SystemWorks on all of the machines that I maintain.
Shadowman
2005-08-26 00:59:46 UTC
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Post by Rick Merrill
Comcast customers can get free McAfee antivirus and firewall. I
currently use Norton. Should I switch???
I would switch from Norton's, but not necessarily to McAfee. You could
probably get hundreds of completely different opinions here. I've had
problems with much of the Norton/Symantec software in the past, to the
point where I won't buy any of their products anymore. I haven't used
McAfee's in over 5 years, so I can't give much of an opinion on it.

I've been using a combination of the free versions of avast! antivirus
and Kerio personal firewall on my laptop recently, and so far I'm happy
with it.
Warren
2005-08-26 02:31:05 UTC
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My favorite is Panda Titanium Antivirus: http://www.pandasoftware.com/

If you want, you can also get a free online scan:

http://www.pandasoftware.com/products/activescan/com/activescan_principal.htm

I like free, but I hessitate to take Comcast up on the free McAfee offer
only because of the problems I had with McAfee in the past. I once found
myself in a loop while trying to update the software (not just adding new
definitions). After getting out of the loop I found the software broken,
unable to reinitiate the update, and unable to automatically uninstall. By
the time I got things back to normal, I wasn't interested in reinstalling
McAfee.

I don't like Norton because it does too many things in the background, and
didn't respect my choices to turn-off some of these unnecessary background
processes. Kind of ironic, since one of the things it was suposed to protect
me from was programs running unauthorized background operations. It also was
a bear to uninstall.

I spent a couple years using the online, free virus scans from Panda before
I spent the money to install the program on my machine. It installed easily.
I can turn things on and off reliably. It hasn't crashed anything. And I've
updated the engine a couple of times with no more difficulty than updating
the definitions file. I don't know how easy it is to unistall it as I
haven't had a reason to uninstall it yet.

Admittedly my bad experiences with McAfee and Norton are based on old
versions of the software, long obsolete. But when I was using them, it
seemed that anytime a bug was fixed, they just had to add some more bells
and whistles that were even more buggy. And it seemed that every time
Microsoft made a significant update, McAfee and Norton didn't get along with
it. I haven't had those problems with Panda probably because it isn't as
invasive when it installs. It doesn't try to become part of the OS. It knows
it's just a program that needs to run on the OS.

BTW: I don't get paid to push Panda. They pay me nothing. You can buy it,
and I get nothing.

But... If you want to line my pockets, you can use this link to buy it:
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B0006LCHX6/ref=nosim/holzemville-20

I also get paid if you buy Norton through this link:
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B0002UCSKI/ref=nosim/holzemville-20

Or PC-cillin:
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B00068IBZW/ref=nosim/holzemville-20

I could give you a link for McAfee, but since Comcast gives it away free, I
won't bother. But my point is, I don't get paid to push one over the other.
My opinions are based on what I think is best, and is not a paid
endorsement.
--
Warren H.

==========
Disclaimer: My views reflect those of myself, and not my
employer, my friends, nor (as she often tells me) my wife.
Any resemblance to the views of anybody living or dead is
coincidental. No animals were hurt in the writing of this
response -- unless you count my dog who desperately wants
to go outside now.
Have an outdoor project? Get a Black & Decker power tool::
http://www.holzemville.com/mall/blackanddecker/
Wayne Butscher
2005-08-26 02:32:53 UTC
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Both McAfee and Norton are fine products but McAfee really slows down a
computer (Ram Hog) especially if you are using the anti-virus and the
firewall. Make sure you have lots of Ram!
Post by Shadowman
Post by Rick Merrill
Comcast customers can get free McAfee antivirus and firewall. I
currently use Norton. Should I switch???
I would switch from Norton's, but not necessarily to McAfee. You could
probably get hundreds of completely different opinions here. I've had
problems with much of the Norton/Symantec software in the past, to the
point where I won't buy any of their products anymore. I haven't used
McAfee's in over 5 years, so I can't give much of an opinion on it.
I've been using a combination of the free versions of avast! antivirus
and Kerio personal firewall on my laptop recently, and so far I'm happy
with it.
-Dan-
2005-08-26 12:09:55 UTC
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Do not use McAfee... of any variety, free or otherwise...

McAfee appears to contain spyware. I recently let my three year McAfee subscription expire on a W2K box a few weeks after the Comcast-McAfee deal went into effect. I removed McAfee via Control Panel and reset firewall rules accordingly. Shortly thereafter, I get a firewall flag informing me that an app wants access to the internet. The app was created by McAfee; the target IP address belonged to Comcast. Needless to say, that app got itself deleted... immediately. I also removed all registry entries pointing to the app. There was no uninstall for the app. That is enough for me to believe that McAfee contains spyware.
--
-Dan-
Post by Rick Merrill
Comcast customers can get free McAfee antivirus and firewall. I
currently use Norton. Should I switch???
daytripper
2005-08-26 13:19:15 UTC
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Post by -Dan-
Do not use McAfee... of any variety, free or otherwise...
McAfee appears to contain spyware. I recently let my three year McAfee subscription expire on a W2K box a few weeks after the Comcast-McAfee deal went into effect. I removed McAfee via Control Panel and reset firewall rules accordingly. Shortly thereafter, I get a firewall flag informing me that an app wants access to the internet. The app was created by McAfee; the target IP address belonged to Comcast. Needless to say, that app got itself deleted... immediately. I also removed all registry entries pointing to the app. There was no uninstall for the app. That is enough for me to believe that McAfee contains spyware.
What you probably saw was the McAfee updater trying to phone home.

And fix your line wrap...
Bill G
2005-08-26 17:38:50 UTC
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On Fri, 26 Aug 2005 09:19:15 -0400, daytripper
Post by daytripper
Post by -Dan-
Do not use McAfee... of any variety, free or otherwise...
McAfee appears to contain spyware. I recently let my three year McAfee subscription expire on a W2K box a few weeks after the Comcast-McAfee deal went into effect. I removed McAfee via Control Panel and reset firewall rules accordingly. Shortly thereafter, I get a firewall flag informing me that an app wants access to the internet. The app was created by McAfee; the target IP address belonged to Comcast. Needless to say, that app got itself deleted... immediately. I also removed all registry entries pointing to the app. There was no uninstall for the app. That is enough for me to believe that McAfee contains spyware.
What you probably saw was the McAfee updater trying to phone home.
And fix your line wrap...
Since you're using Agent, just press O to automatically wrap the lines
when the poster has failed to do so.
--
Bill
Bit Twister
2005-08-26 17:49:22 UTC
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Post by Bill G
Since you're using Agent, just press O to automatically wrap the lines
when the poster has failed to do so.
So you're suggesting everyone has to limp because OP's leg is broke. :)
daytripper
2005-08-26 18:07:00 UTC
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Post by Bit Twister
Post by Bill G
Since you're using Agent, just press O to automatically wrap the lines
when the poster has failed to do so.
So you're suggesting everyone has to limp because OP's leg is broke. :)
That's the way of the world in the last five years.

No biggie, I just thought he might want to know his formatting is FUBAR...
Bill G
2005-08-26 19:06:04 UTC
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On Fri, 26 Aug 2005 14:07:00 -0400, daytripper
Post by daytripper
Post by Bit Twister
Post by Bill G
Since you're using Agent, just press O to automatically wrap the lines
when the poster has failed to do so.
So you're suggesting everyone has to limp because OP's leg is broke. :)
That's the way of the world in the last five years.
No biggie, I just thought he might want to know his formatting is FUBAR...
No, no, no, I agree with you guys. :) The OP should certainly fix his
formatting. I was just saying, in the meantime, there's a workaround.
Sorry it came off the wrong the way.
--
Bill
Dr Feelgood
2005-08-26 17:20:06 UTC
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"-Dan-" <***@spam.is.bad> wrote in message news:98OdnW0ISowSm5LeRVn-***@comcast.com...
Do not use McAfee... of any variety, free or otherwise...

McAfee appears to contain spyware. I recently let my three year McAfee
subscription expire on a W2K box a few weeks after the Comcast-McAfee deal
went into effect. I removed McAfee via Control Panel and reset firewall
rules accordingly. Shortly thereafter, I get a firewall flag informing me
that an app wants access to the internet. The app was created by McAfee;
the target IP address belonged to Comcast. Needless to say, that app got
itself deleted... immediately. I also removed all registry entries
pointing to the app. There was no uninstall for the app. That is enough
for me to believe that McAfee contains spyware.
--
-Dan-


I have a bridge or two I'd like to sell you, some land in the Florida &
Louisiana everglades, Alaska & several other states. The fact you couldn't
complete an uninstall properly has nothing to do with spyware. McAfee was
simply checking for updates or some trojan you let get through by
uninstalling the AV software was doing it's thing.

FYI: Simply removing The AV program is only a part of the uninstall. You
also need to remove the Security suite that works together with the AV
program or it will continue to try and update itself. Norton AV does exactly
the same thing.

As to your no uninstall for the app you are just plain wrong. You do need
to remove the software in the correct order and click the right choices
during the uninstall process but the uninstall is not broken and the only
thing it leaves behind is a reference showing it was installed at one time
as either a registered or unregistered program. Those that feel comfortable
with regedit can then delete that reference if they want to and feel
comfortable messing with their registry. There is also a reference left in
your windows system directory for those who had the trail or "free version"
to prevent someone from simply uninstalling a free version and getting extra
free trials till the cows come home.
FYIS.org
2005-08-26 13:57:13 UTC
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Post by Rick Merrill
Comcast customers can get free McAfee antivirus and firewall. I
currently use Norton. Should I switch???
Definitely NOT!
My reasons are here
http://www.epinions.com/content_181371506308
I'm using Sygate's Firewall (which I hear was just bought out by Symantec).

DanlK, FYI Services Collectibles
www.FYIS.org
Dr Feelgood
2005-08-26 16:58:02 UTC
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Post by FYIS.org
Post by Rick Merrill
Comcast customers can get free McAfee antivirus and firewall. I
currently use Norton. Should I switch???
Definitely NOT!
My reasons are here
http://www.epinions.com/content_181371506308
I'm using Sygate's Firewall (which I hear was just bought out by Symantec).
All firewalls are resource pigs to some extent. If you want to use a 3rd.
rate AV solution feel free to do so. To advise others not to use a perfectly
good product because you don't understand it makes no sense.

I would not use McAfee firewall myself but strongly recommend anyone else
considering using this or any other software firewall product to try the
test versions of these products themselves and choose the one they are
happiest with.

My personal experiences show McAfee AV to be better ( at least for me) than
any other AV package available to date. I wrote off Norton AV years ago but
continue to test it and other available AV programs from time to time.It
only takes one real virus to destroy a home computer. I feel very safe using
McAfee AV to protect my computer.
Post by FYIS.org
DanlK, FYI Services Collectibles
www.FYIS.org
FYIS.org
2005-08-26 19:29:58 UTC
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Post by Dr Feelgood
Post by FYIS.org
Post by Rick Merrill
Comcast customers can get free McAfee antivirus and firewall. I
currently use Norton. Should I switch???
Definitely NOT!
My reasons are here
http://www.epinions.com/content_181371506308
I'm using Sygate's Firewall (which I hear was just bought out by Symantec).
All firewalls are resource pigs to some extent. If you want to use a
3rd. rate AV solution feel free to do so.
Gee, I didn't know Norton's AV was considered a "3rd. rate AV solution"!
Wow, ya learn sumthin' new every day.

DanlK, FYI Services Collectibles
www.FYIS.org
Dr Feelgood
2005-08-26 19:48:27 UTC
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Post by FYIS.org
Post by Dr Feelgood
Post by FYIS.org
Post by Rick Merrill
Comcast customers can get free McAfee antivirus and firewall. I
currently use Norton. Should I switch???
Definitely NOT!
My reasons are here
http://www.epinions.com/content_181371506308
I'm using Sygate's Firewall (which I hear was just bought out by Symantec).
All firewalls are resource pigs to some extent. If you want to use a
3rd. rate AV solution feel free to do so.
Gee, I didn't know Norton's AV was considered a "3rd. rate AV solution"!
Wow, ya learn sumthin' new every day.
DanlK, FYI Services Collectibles
www.FYIS.org
Learn to read and understand what you read. I never gave any names of AV
programs I consider to be 3rd. rate. That statement was not even in the same
paragraph I mentioned Norton AV in. By the use of selective snipping you
have once again shown yourself for what you are. My opinion of that is
between me and what you care to read into this post. I'm sure you will take
that statement as negatively as possible and that is your choice to make.
FYIS.org
2005-08-26 21:05:03 UTC
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Post by Dr Feelgood
Post by FYIS.org
Post by Dr Feelgood
Post by FYIS.org
Post by Rick Merrill
Comcast customers can get free McAfee antivirus and firewall. I
currently use Norton. Should I switch???
Definitely NOT!
My reasons are here
http://www.epinions.com/content_181371506308
I'm using Sygate's Firewall (which I hear was just bought out by Symantec).
All firewalls are resource pigs to some extent. If you want to use a
3rd. rate AV solution feel free to do so.
Gee, I didn't know Norton's AV was considered a "3rd. rate AV
solution"! Wow, ya learn sumthin' new every day.
Learn to read and understand what you read. I never gave any names of
AV programs I consider to be 3rd. rate.
Correct, you did not mention I was using Norton anti-virus, I replied to
your post that I am.
You did however in your pompous arrogant manner assume I either was
currently using, or considering using, a "3rd. rate AV solution". Why? I
haven't the foggiest idea, I was responding to and commenting on my
experience with McAfee Firewall to Rick.
If I wanted a pompous narrowminded irrelevant response, rest assured I would
have asked for yours.

DanlK, FYI Services Collectibles
www.FYIS.org
Dr Feelgood
2005-08-26 21:51:46 UTC
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Post by FYIS.org
Post by Dr Feelgood
Post by FYIS.org
Post by Dr Feelgood
Post by FYIS.org
Post by Rick Merrill
Comcast customers can get free McAfee antivirus and firewall. I
currently use Norton. Should I switch???
Definitely NOT!
My reasons are here
http://www.epinions.com/content_181371506308
I'm using Sygate's Firewall (which I hear was just bought out by Symantec).
All firewalls are resource pigs to some extent. If you want to use a
3rd. rate AV solution feel free to do so.
Gee, I didn't know Norton's AV was considered a "3rd. rate AV
solution"! Wow, ya learn sumthin' new every day.
Learn to read and understand what you read. I never gave any names of
AV programs I consider to be 3rd. rate.
Correct, you did not mention I was using Norton anti-virus, I replied to
your post that I am.
You did however in your pompous arrogant manner assume I either was
currently using, or considering using, a "3rd. rate AV solution". Why? I
haven't the foggiest idea, I was responding to and commenting on my
experience with McAfee Firewall to Rick.
If I wanted a pompous narrowminded irrelevant response, rest assured I would
have asked for yours.
DanlK, FYI Services Collectibles
www.FYIS.org
Sorry you are full of food waste in your lower body. (Note: I wrote body not
lower extremities) I never assumed you or anyone else was using any
specific AV program except as the various individuals may or may not have
stated in their postings. I would recommend a good reading comprehension
class or two. Most Junior colleges offer these classes and you seem to be in
dire need of some basic reading comprehension.

If you feel Norton is so bad it needs defending as you it's rating that is
your personal problem. I recommended people try the trial versions of any AV
, firewall, and other security software and make up their own mind as to
which one(s) they feel are worth spending their money on. You are the only
one here insisting Norton may be 3rd. rate.
FYIS.org
2005-08-26 22:15:57 UTC
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Post by Dr Feelgood
I recommended people
Anyone taking any of *your* recommendations is a fool.

DanlK, FYI Services Collectibles
www.FYIS.org
Dr Feelgood
2005-08-26 22:56:29 UTC
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"FYIS.org" <***@nospam.net> wrote in message

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Anyone taking any of *your* recommendations is a fool.
DanlK, FYI Services Collectibles
www.FYIS.org
And you are an authority on what others should recommend because?

A. You are God?

B. You know everything about everything?

C. You know more than I do and can prove it?

D. You are a total moron with an attitude so everyone better do as you say
or you will go crying to your Mommy and she will beat them up?

I can with authority let you know that................................

A. You are not God

B. You don't know even half of what you profess knowledge of. And you don't
understand even simple concepts.

C. You are incapable of learning even from your own mistakes.


D. Your Mommy may sympathize with you but she will not beat anyone up
because she knows how stupid you really are.

If you insist on snipping out pertinent text from post you disagree with you
will never learn anything useful except how to be referred to as I have just
done. Chances are you won't learn even that but you will generate a lot of
similar answers.
FYIS.org
2005-08-26 23:10:00 UTC
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Post by Dr Feelgood
And you are an authority on what others should recommend because?
I can with authority
Based on my expert "authority", let me play your game and guess; you are:

1. A misguided PhD type who couldn't find their way to a men's room without
a road map.

2. Once having found the men's room, you are the typical stereotype of the
geek with the toilet paper stuck to your shoe trailing behind you.

3. A frustrated professor/instructor who epitomizes the saying, "those who
can't do, teach" (or at least try to).

4. For fear of losing tenure/perish, you definitely have published.

DanlK, FYI Services Collectibles
www.FYIS.org
Barry Margolin
2005-08-26 23:21:57 UTC
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Post by Dr Feelgood
And you are an authority on what others should recommend because?
I can with authority
Please Don't Feed the Troll
--
Barry Margolin, ***@alum.mit.edu
Arlington, MA
Dr Feelgood
2005-08-26 23:46:48 UTC
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Post by Barry Margolin
Please Don't Feed the Troll
--
Arlington, MA
Yes Barry has had quite enough to eat as of late.
Dr Feelgood
2005-08-27 00:37:40 UTC
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Post by FYIS.org
Post by Dr Feelgood
And you are an authority on what others should recommend because?
I can with authority
1. A misguided PhD type who couldn't find their way to a men's room without
a road map.
Wrong.. I just shit on assholes like you and allow you to lick my ass clean.
Post by FYIS.org
2. Once having found the men's room, you are the typical stereotype of the
geek with the toilet paper stuck to your shoe trailing behind you.
Wrong again. I leave the mens room with a moron like following me tryinjg to
talk me into lettoing you give me a blow job.
Post by FYIS.org
3. A frustrated professor/instructor who epitomizes the saying, "those who
can't do, teach" (or at least try to).
I don't even try to teach. The world has to many morons like you that are
unteachable so If I tried I'd end up in jail fore kicking the shit out of
them. Jury would find me inocent however as after I kicked the shit out of
you there would be no evidence left for the prosecution to present.
Post by FYIS.org
4. For fear of losing tenure/perish, you definitely have published.
The articles I have published were in the field of Refrigeration, heating
and ventilation. With all those big words longer than 4 letters long you
wouldn't be able to understand them.


Well ASSHOLE, You are basing an opinion of AV software based on someone
else's opinion of firewall software.

How does it feel to be such an idiot? The post you replied to originally
was...
Post by FYIS.org
Comcast customers can get free McAfee antivirus and firewall. I
currently use Norton. Should I switch???
To which you replied....

Definitely NOT!
My reasons are here
http://www.epinions.com/content_181371506308
I'm using Sygate's Firewall (which I hear was just bought out by Symantec).

Then When I suggested not to judge any computer program based on other than
the facts a user can decide for himself you went ballistic over Norton AV,
falsely claiming I had called it 3rd. Rate. You either need to lock yourself
in a closet for about 30 years or you need to go out and get yourself laid
if that is even possible for a retard like yourself. Now you have fairy
Barry jumping in with his 2 cents worth that isn't worth a jar to piss in or
a broken window to toss it out of.

Now the rest of the flame brigade will no-doubt jump in and blame me for
this whole thread mess rather than actually paying attention and seeing what
an ASSHOLE you are.
Barf on you
2005-08-28 14:48:56 UTC
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On Fri, 26 Aug 2005 15:56:29 -0700, "Dr Feelgood"
Post by Dr Feelgood
D. Your Mommy may sympathize with you but she will not beat anyone up
because she knows how stupid you really are.
That you are Feelcrap, one hundred percent ignorant cunt.
bye
Dr Feelgood
2005-08-28 18:23:36 UTC
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Post by Barf on you
On Fri, 26 Aug 2005 15:56:29 -0700, "Dr Feelgood"
Post by Dr Feelgood
D. Your Mommy may sympathize with you but she will not beat anyone up
because she knows how stupid you really are.
That you are Feelcrap, one hundred percent ignorant cunt.
bye
Be still my hopeful heart. Could this piss-ant really mean (good) bye? Only
time will tell.

Is Barf yet another Jim Polaski, Bob Brogan Ham Alias?
Could Barf Be the turd that lives in Ham's backside?

Only the shadow knows.

Stay tuned for another exciting episode of newsgroup stalkers in action.Try
to sort out the scumbags various alias names as they hop from server to
server and newsgroup to newsgroup to spread their hatred and tripe.

Starring Jim Polaski Bob Brogan Ham the School district bum, Larry the one
celled brain dead poster and RM the starving hatred spreading moron.
Shadowman
2005-08-29 05:02:48 UTC
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Dr Feelgood wrote:
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Is Barf yet another Jim Polaski, Bob Brogan Ham Alias?
Could Barf Be the turd that lives in Ham's backside?
Only the shadow knows.
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Hey, leave me out of this...
Dr Feelgood
2005-08-29 05:35:33 UTC
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Post by Dr Feelgood
Is Barf yet another Jim Polaski, Bob Brogan Ham Alias?
Could Barf Be the turd that lives in Ham's backside?
Only the shadow knows.
<snip>
Hey, leave me out of this...
LOL

Nice to see someone in here has a sense of humor.

"The Shadow" Not Shadowman.

For those who are to young to remember ( probably most of the posters here )
"The Shadow" was a fictional Character on Radio and later on TV. Back before
TV and when all TV was black and white.

I was lucky enough to grow up in that era when times were simpler and
parents used parenting skills if they had them or not. ( A belt or a wooden
paddle could make a child behave for weeks at a time. ) A Time when children
could actually go trick-or-treating and come home with a large bag or
pillowcase full of candy that was relatively safe to eat. Before
disgruntled Mailmen went on killing rampages, and spoiled kids took over
control of their homes. Back when we were proud to be Americans and most
people got long distance phone calls only when someone had died or was very
sick. A freeway was how kids snuck into a theater when they couldn't gather
enough pop bottles to turn in to the local store for the deposit money that
would pay the small charge to see two full feature movies, 3 or 4 serials
and a bunch of cartoons.
JTS
2005-09-06 23:01:06 UTC
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Post by Dr Feelgood
Post by Dr Feelgood
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Post by Dr Feelgood
Is Barf yet another Jim Polaski, Bob Brogan Ham Alias?
Could Barf Be the turd that lives in Ham's backside?
Only the shadow knows.
<snip>
Hey, leave me out of this...
LOL
Nice to see someone in here has a sense of humor.
"The Shadow" Not Shadowman.
For those who are to young to remember ( probably most of the posters
here ) "The Shadow" was a fictional Character on Radio and later on TV.
Back before TV and when all TV was black and white.
I was lucky enough to grow up in that era when times were simpler and
parents used parenting skills if they had them or not. ( A belt or a
wooden paddle could make a child behave for weeks at a time. ) A Time when
children could actually go trick-or-treating and come home with a large
bag or pillowcase full of candy that was relatively safe to eat. Before
disgruntled Mailmen went on killing rampages, and spoiled kids took over
control of their homes. Back when we were proud to be Americans and most
people got long distance phone calls only when someone had died or was
very sick. A freeway was how kids snuck into a theater when they couldn't
gather enough pop bottles to turn in to the local store for the deposit
money that would pay the small charge to see two full feature movies, 3 or
4 serials and a bunch of cartoons.
Damn. I thought I was old.
Dr Feelgood
2005-09-06 23:17:57 UTC
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Post by JTS
Post by Dr Feelgood
Post by Dr Feelgood
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Post by Dr Feelgood
Is Barf yet another Jim Polaski, Bob Brogan Ham Alias?
Could Barf Be the turd that lives in Ham's backside?
Only the shadow knows.
<snip>
Hey, leave me out of this...
LOL
Nice to see someone in here has a sense of humor.
"The Shadow" Not Shadowman.
For those who are to young to remember ( probably most of the posters
here ) "The Shadow" was a fictional Character on Radio and later on TV.
Back before TV and when all TV was black and white.
I was lucky enough to grow up in that era when times were simpler and
parents used parenting skills if they had them or not. ( A belt or a
wooden paddle could make a child behave for weeks at a time. ) A Time
when children could actually go trick-or-treating and come home with a
large bag or pillowcase full of candy that was relatively safe to eat.
Before disgruntled Mailmen went on killing rampages, and spoiled kids
took over control of their homes. Back when we were proud to be Americans
and most people got long distance phone calls only when someone had died
or was very sick. A freeway was how kids snuck into a theater when they
couldn't gather enough pop bottles to turn in to the local store for the
deposit money that would pay the small charge to see two full feature
movies, 3 or 4 serials and a bunch of cartoons.
Damn. I thought I was old.
You are. ROFLMAO

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